Horjan (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Also, they turned of their transponders, you have to remember scrambles happen outside the US, where the planes are detected. On 911 they had hundreds and hundreds of domestic flights in the air, and no idea they were going to crash. They didn't have the opportunity to scramble up airplanes for the wtc-planes and the pentagon, because it is not normal prosedure. Flight 93 wasn't invisible on the radar, and they confused it with flight delta-(smthing) which landed in Cleveland for safety reasons.

Horjan (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I agree on all of this, well I am not as devoted as you are, but the only things I disagree with you on are: "we know buildings only collapse like that with explosive demolitions" which I think is false, and regarding the air force, A domestic flight has never been interfered before. You see scrambling jets for interfering russian spy planes outside the borders and inside is normal, but tracking down a domestic flight within minutes amongst hundreds and hundreds of flights is not normal.

Horjan (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I dont see you as a frothing nutter either, I am not a frothing nutter, and I started out believing these theories, because I only saw the conspiracy side of things, and I actually like conspiracy theories, I just don't think a conspiracy theory is necessary on the 911 incident. I think people start out to hyped up, and not paying attention to facts outside the "conspiracy box" which I like to call it.

streetfightsecrets (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I have no Theory to explain what happened. I am more of an Offical Story Questioner or Denier. Too many coincidences, too many people benefitting, too many smoking guns for me to not think something is wrong with the official story. We know people in power were advised not to fly, we know the air force wasnt scrambled in time, we know that the twin towers had just had their insurance renewed, we know buildings only collapse like that with explosive demolitions etc etc etc

streetfightsecrets (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

well, this conversation has me learning things... strictly speaking a zealot is "member of a militant 1st century Jewish sect which fiercely resisted the Romans in Palestine"- I only just found that online. ;0)In modern English it means a "fanatical enthusiast"- so I was trying to say Im not a frothing nutter! Im not out to convince anyone of anything.So you would put the "Hijackers" being alive down to just faulty intelligence maybe?By the way I dont consider myself a Conspiracy Theorist

Horjan (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Yeah, these "might be alive" pilots as BBC puts it may actually be alive, I don't doubt that. I doubt that the only explanation is "inside job" Since atta, hanjour al-shehhi and others were seen on the airport surveillance cams, heard from the cockpit, and were on the passanger lists, but it might be possible that there were only 4 hijackers pr plane, totalling at 12 hijackers, not 19. On the surveillance cam you only see 3 or 4 hijackers. Whats a zealot? (I'm norwegian)

wesia4lia (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

ok good luck on finding the truthit will never come to you

streetfightsecrets (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

do you mind if I just talk to Horjan then please? I appreaciate that you think its "funny" that I have an opinion and will voice it and stand by it, but Im not in the habit of letting teenage youtubers influence whether I speak or not. Im sure you can respect that.

streetfightsecrets (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Hi Horjanthe only list Ive seen was NOT a "passenger list" it was a victim list published by CNN- and there were of course no hijackers listed as they werent "victims" - so there is nothing untoward about that.If you have time you can check out the BBC news website and search "hijackers alive" - its the top article.Im not a zealot by the way- each to their own I say. Just throwing the info your way respectfully for the sake of intelligent debate.For your consideration as it were.

wesia4lia (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

no .. i just think ppl are funny when they think theyre experts after watchn a few conspiracy videos