Ariansalas (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

lmao edwin punch like a girl, it's funny how he throws punches, kinda like a little kid punch.

Shakehound (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Could he be any scrappier? It looks like two little lads scrapping over pokemon cards.

raff4201 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

valero needs to step it up, in competion !!!

benitojuarez1234 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

of course no one know what would happen in the future until it comes that's why we predict things based on the fact that is present today. Its just like boxing we predict based on the style, boxing exp, record, skills etc. And i predict valero has no chance against valero base on the fact present today. This is boxing and anything could happen and one punch can change the outcome of the game. Even the bum in light flyweight has chance to KO pacman if you know what i mean.

HalDanGhor (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Sure, it is a matter of point of views. No problem with that. Pacquiao is faster than Valero for sure, but they both are very sneaky with their punches, and when Pacquiao msses, he is vulnerable to counter attacks. However, if he counterattacks the counterattack, he can be very dangerous. In terms of style Valero never saw a Pacquiao in front of him professionally, and Pacquiao never saw a Valero too. We just don't know what would happen out of ten fights between both of them...

benitojuarez1234 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

i dont know about that cause i see valero just like david diaz, and i think diaz is much better than valero in terms of skills and defense. Valero is just a bit powerful than diaz and thats it

HalDanGhor (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Sure! But I didn't say Valero would knock them out. I know he could give them some trouble. and, remember that Pacquiao lost twice by knockout, and Juan Manuel Marquez can be knocked down too. That said, those three are very dangerous boxers. ;)

benitojuarez1234 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

*every human can be knockout or groggy if you punch him at his chin with certain amount of force at the right time and at at right place

benitojuarez1234 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

the only reason why i see valero beat top fighters is because it is a fluke. Means valero landed a punch to every boxer dream land (chin) of course pacman and jmm is not superman not every human can be knockout or groggy if you punch him at his chin with certain amount of force at the right time and at at right place

HalDanGhor (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Yeah, he fought lots of nonames, but Mosquera was a very good boxer! Yes, Valero looks overestimated as well as underestimated because of his opposition. However, because of it, people tend to think of him as a slow boxer, just power, etc, but he has a very good sense of adaptation, and he's much faster when he wants to. Anyway, speed is not everything. He times his punches very well too. I'd really love a fight between him and Pacquiao! :)