Maddogg1177 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

We need A.I.'s like Cortana (Halo) in our computers, then we'll be getting somewhere!

sampattuzzi (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

All desktops borrow from each other! If one gets a cool new feature why can't the other desktops adopt it as well. So ripping off is not the problem, doing it badly and not adding anything original is. KDE 4 borrows very well and adds tonnes of cool new features.

HaniiPuppy (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

well even when they first came out, the back-ground windows lost the buttons on the menu-bar until they came into the foreground again

CerebralGump (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I use Vista regularly at work (unfortunately), a Vista rip-off KDE 4.0 is not. It is superior in every way. As far as OS X goes, the arguments over who innovated what first will go on for years. But the similarities are shallow ones. KDE 4.0 is a different beast from the Mac desktop and overall, better IMHO. And it is worth pointing out how much open source software Apple have used to make OS X and Safari possible in the first place.

CerebralGump (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I'd dispute the "always have" part, but how is this a usability issue ?

CerebralGump (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I installed on the day of the 4.0 release and yes, as we were warned, this was the 'will eat your children' release. But every week since release I see new improvements. Its getting better every week. And this is great to witness. I'm using Kubuntu 7.10 and though there are glitches and things it has become my default desktop. Incidentally I was playing with a new mac the other day and I was actually disappointed by it and was happy to get back to my 'better every week' KDE 4.0 desktop.

HaniiPuppy (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

macs fade out inactive windows, they always have.

PauliusBa (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Vista and MAC OS X rip-off

testpilot007 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Ive installed kde4 today on a Kubuntu 8.04 Machine. I was really looking forward for this release but its pretty unusable right now, it frequently crashes and the only way to recover is to remove the .kde4 folder in your home folder. By the way none of the effects works with my ATI Card using a fglrx driver. I realy hope things getting better 4.0.1!

ubuntu704feistyfawn (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

ive tried kde 4 rc live cd. this is probalry the worst kde release. it havent got desktop icons it uses widgets as desktop icons << i hate this. i cant make taskbar smaller. it have got so much bugs and im sure that all of them will not be fixed in final release. u need to wait 4.0.5 or somethink. actually im kde lover but this product is...with no words. i will back to 3.5 it is much better than 4.0. i will be better use gnome but not kde 4. thats my opinion of kde 4.